Friday, January 13, 2023

Who Were the Ancient Visitors to Earth?

 

I received this question sent to our group WhatsApp chat that reads:

“I am just wondering in Erich von Daniken video talk someone sent here,

Daniken claimed these ancient gods were extra-terrestrial beings with heads, helmets, arms and legs in spaceships which the ancient people thought were gods. I am wondering how these gods or aliens could travel so far away from another world.

May be Dr Lim Ju Boo can explain better as he is the best person, as he is a walking encyclopaedia in astronomy, biology, chemistry, evolution, mathematics, medicine to zoology come what may”

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Here's my reply to him.

Thank you, Tan Sri Doctor, for your question soliciting my unworthy opinion. I shall try my best, hopefully others in the chat group can also chip in theirs.

 

First of all, I’m not a walking encyclopaedia. I too sometimes need to search here and there or do some calculations or reason them out myself. It could be a guess work sometimes. Literature search is very time consuming and takes a lot of time. Anyway, that's my problem. 

 

Okay now, I don't think I agree with Erich von Daniken totally that these ancient beings who visited this world were beings like you and me, because if they were, they would need air, food and water during the journey, and they needed to carry tens of millions of tons of them to last them into such a horrendously long journey of several hundreds, if not thousands of light years. Even the nearest star to Earth is a three-star system Alpha Centauri that lies about 4.37 light-years away. That's the closet. That is 41.3 trillion km away (1 light year = 9.46 trillion kilometres). There are 3.154e+7 seconds in a year. 

 

Even if these ancient space travellers can travel at, let's say 2 % the speed of light as Daniken claimed, they will still need to travel at near 6000 km per second since the speed of light is 299 792 458 m / s. Even at that speed it will take them 218 years to reach Earth from the nearest star, and that's the nearest world from the nearest star system. What about from another world? It could be from any of the 100–400 billion other stars and worlds within the Milky Way Galaxy spanning 52,850 light years across in radius. How long would these aliens need to take, and for what purpose would they need to take such a horrendously long journey? Just to build the Great Pyramid at Gaza or set up the Stonehenge monument on Salisbury Plain in England? 

 

Were they just wanting to draw all those Nazca Lines that are a group of geoglyphs made in the soil of the Nazca Desert in southern Peru, or draw some zoomorphic designs, including a hummingbird, spider, fish, condor, heron, monkey, lizard, dog, cat, and a human, said to be created between 500 BCE and 500 CE,  best seen from the air which he suggests may have been constructed by humans as crude replicas of previous alien structures, as a way to call the aliens back to Earth.

 

 Other examples Erich von Daniken gave was Moai of Easter Island, and an early world map known as the Piri Reis map, which he described as showing Earth as it is seen from space. He uses this same explanation to argue that cart ruts in Malta may have had extra-terrestrial purposes along with similar lines in Australia, Saudi Arabia, and the Aral Sea.

 

 For what purpose do they want to do this? What so special about us, or rather what so special about the ancient civilizations that the aliens have to undertake such an unspeakable journey just to impress them?  

 

We know that there may be as much as 100 trillion, trillion (100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) or 1026 other worlds out there from one end of the tether to the other end some 93 billion light years  across which is 8.8 23 km (880 000,000,000,000,000,000,000) km in diameter, or about 28.5 gigaparsecs.

 

Go to these two articles on number of stars like sands on a cosmic ocean  

 

https://scientificlogic.blogspot.com/search?q=sands+on+earth

 

https://taionn.blogspot.com/search?q=cosmic+ocean

 

Why then should only our world be so special to these alien beings wanting to visit us?  

 

Separately from his video-lecture, in his book “Chariots of the Gods” he also put forward that ancient artwork throughout the world can be interpreted as depicting astronauts, air and space vehicles, extra-terrestrials, and complex technology. Von Daniken explains elements that he believes are similar in the art of unrelated cultures.

 

Among the artwork he describes are the ancient Japanese Dogu figurines which he believes to resemble astronauts in spacesuits, and 3,000-year-old carvings in an Egyptian New Kingdom Temple that appear to depict helicopter-like machines.

 

In “Chariots of the Gods” he further suggested that the origins of many religions, including interpretations of the Old Testament of the Bible, are reactions to contact with an alien race such as in the Book of Ezekiel a Hebrew prophet whom in Judaism and Christianity, who lived in the 6th-century BCE, Daniken spoke of a space vehicle that could move forward, backwards, sideways all at the same time.  According to him, humans at that time considered the technology of the aliens to be supernatural and the aliens themselves to be gods.

 

Von Daniken asks if the oral and literal traditions of most religions contain references to visitors from stars and vehicles traveling through air and space. These, he says, should be interpreted as literal descriptions which have changed during the passage of time and become more obscure. 

 

Another problem is, if they were similar beings like us, wouldn't they age and die on the way here?

 

Of course, we may argue if they could travel near the speed of light their clock will slow down and they may remain young to withstand the journey. This is called “time dilation” given by Lorentz formula as, γ = √ (1 - v²/c²) determine by the time interval measured by the stationary observer, where v is the speed of the travelling viewer’s velocity, and c is the speed of light. Substituting the value of v into the equation √ (1 - 36 000 000 / 8.988 x 10^10) gives us the result that is still only 0.999 of real time measured by the traveller.

 

In other words, even if the extra-terrestrial beings travelled at 2 % the speed of light, this does not slow down their age significantly, or make them younger to ensure they do not age and die somewhere along the way during those appalling lengthy interstellar journey, if I have interpreted this Lorentz or Einstein theory correctly?

 

Another problem these ancient visitors would encounter is, where are they going to get the energy from to power their spaceship or spacecraft? 

 

Accelerating just one ton of their spaceship to one-tenth of the speed of light would require at least 450 P Joules or 4.5 ×10^17 Joules, or 125 billion kWh, not accounting for losses. The source of energy must be carried since solar panels do not work far from the Sun and other stars. The magnitude of this energy simply makes interstellar travel impossible.

 

Another problem we are confronted here is, were those ancient extra-terrestrial visitors human-like with DNA and genetic materials in their bodies similar to ours or with female humans during Noah's time around 967 BC or 2,948 years ago? If not, they would not be able to mate with human females due to mismatch in the number of chromosomes 

 

In Genesis 6:4 it says:

 

"There were Nephilim on earth in those days, and after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown" 

 

So, who were the Nephilim then? Were they “sons of God" or were the offspring who were the "mighty men of old, men of renown" or were they those unknown ancient extra-terrestrial visitors Erich von Daniken described? 

 

See this question further here:

 

https://scientificlogic.blogspot.com/search?q=nephilim

 

 

If they were humans like us, I really do not think they would have been able to make all those staggeringly lengthy journeys from another world light years away.

 

As I said earlier, where would they get the oxygen to breathe, water to drink, and food to eat between their interstellar journeys, unless they were spiritual beings like angels that Erich von Daniken would not believe or agree with me? If they are angels or some spiritual beings from another world that did not require air or oxygen, water food or any propulsion fuels, then there was a possibility. But then again, how could the sons of God mate with humans?   

 

My answer to these, and also to your interesting question is, I really do not know.  Almost all those marvels of ancient mysteries are hidden from us unless someone else can illuminate better.  

 

I hope I have explained, and thank you once again for your question

 

Lim ju boo  

 

(Erich von Daiken is a German-Swiss author of several books which make claims about extra-terrestrial influences on early human culture, including the best-selling Chariots of the Gods? published in 1968. He is main person responsible for popularizing the "paleo-contact" and ancient astronauts’ hypotheses

 

Erich von Daiken is a German-Swiss author of several books which make claims about extra-terrestrial influences on early human culture, including the best-selling Chariots of the Gods? published in 1968. He is main person responsible for popularizing the "paleo-contact" and ancient astronauts’ hypotheses

 

Here is the video-lecture by Erich von Daiken my brother-in-law sent to us in our WhatsApp group:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnFRp4Hyz0c&authuser=0


6 comments:

Choy See Sim said...

Simply a fantastic, highly well-versed and logical explanation. You should write best selling books on all kinds of light medical and scientific subjects instead of conducting medical research

May Ling said...

What a splendid reply so clearly explained. So nice to read all your articles

Barly Camerons said...

I have not read Erich von Daniken Chariots of the Gods yet though I have a copy my brother bought years ago. Your answer to a doctor's question excites me to read his book to learn more about aliens from other worlds Thank you so much. Very good explanation

Lilly TS Sim said...

Yes, I think you are right. There are many things we do not know in other worlds

Hwa-Young from South Korea said...

Some years ago a group of friends of ours saw UFOs in northern China. I think there must be other life too from other parts of our Milky Way

Kylie Victoria said...

Highly interesting explanation. We have to rethink we are not alone Thank you

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