I received
this question sent to our group WhatsApp chat that reads:
“I am just
wondering in Erich von Daniken video talk someone sent here,
Daniken
claimed these ancient gods were extra-terrestrial beings with heads,
helmets, arms and legs in spaceships which the ancient people
thought were gods. I am wondering how these gods or aliens could travel so
far away from another world.
May be Dr Lim Ju Boo can explain better as he is the best person, as he is a walking encyclopaedia in astronomy, biology, chemistry, evolution, mathematics, medicine to zoology come what may”
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Here's my reply to him.
Thank you, Tan Sri
Doctor, for your question soliciting my unworthy opinion. I shall try my best,
hopefully others in the chat group can also chip in theirs.
First of all, I’m
not a walking encyclopaedia. I too sometimes need to search here and there or
do some calculations or reason them out myself. It could be a guess
work sometimes. Literature search is very time consuming and takes a lot
of time. Anyway, that's my problem.
Okay now, I don't
think I agree with Erich von Daniken totally that these ancient beings who
visited this world were beings like you and me, because if they were, they
would need air, food and water during the journey, and they needed to carry
tens of millions of tons of them to last them into such a horrendously long
journey of several hundreds, if not thousands of light years. Even the nearest
star to Earth is a three-star system Alpha Centauri that lies
about 4.37 light-years away. That's the closet. That is 41.3 trillion km away
(1 light year = 9.46 trillion kilometres). There are 3.154e+7 seconds in a
year.
Even if these
ancient space travellers can travel at, let's say 2 % the speed of light as
Daniken claimed, they will still need to travel at near 6000 km per second
since the speed of light is 299 792 458 m / s. Even at that
speed it will take them 218 years to reach Earth from the nearest star, and
that's the nearest world from the nearest star system. What about from another
world? It could be from any of the 100–400 billion other stars and worlds within
the Milky Way Galaxy spanning 52,850 light years across in radius. How
long would these aliens need to take, and for what purpose would they need
to take such a horrendously long journey? Just to build the Great Pyramid at
Gaza or set up the Stonehenge monument on Salisbury
Plain in England?
Were they just
wanting to draw all those Nazca Lines that are a group
of geoglyphs made in the soil of the Nazca Desert in
southern Peru, or draw some zoomorphic designs, including a
hummingbird, spider, fish, condor, heron, monkey, lizard, dog, cat, and a
human, said to be created between 500 BCE and 500 CE, best seen
from the air which he suggests may have been constructed by humans as
crude replicas of previous alien structures, as a way to call the aliens back
to Earth.
Other examples
Erich von Daniken gave was Moai of Easter Island, and an early world
map known as the Piri Reis map, which he described as showing Earth as it
is seen from space. He uses this same explanation to argue that cart ruts
in Malta may have had extra-terrestrial purposes along with similar lines
in Australia, Saudi Arabia, and the Aral Sea.
For what
purpose do they want to do this? What so special about us, or rather what
so special about the ancient civilizations that the aliens have to undertake
such an unspeakable journey just to impress them?
We know that there
may be as much as 100 trillion, trillion (100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000)
or 1026 other worlds out there from one end of the tether to the
other end some 93 billion light years across which is 8.8 23 km (880 000,000,000,000,000,000,000)
km in diameter, or about 28.5 gigaparsecs.
Go to these two
articles on number of stars like sands on a cosmic ocean
https://scientificlogic.blogspot.com/search?q=sands+on+earth
https://taionn.blogspot.com/search?q=cosmic+ocean
Why then should only
our world be so special to these alien beings wanting to visit us?
Separately from his
video-lecture, in his book “Chariots of the Gods” he also put forward that
ancient artwork throughout the world can be interpreted as depicting
astronauts, air and space vehicles, extra-terrestrials, and complex technology.
Von Daniken explains elements that he believes are similar in the art of
unrelated cultures.
Among the artwork he
describes are the ancient Japanese Dogu figurines which
he believes to resemble astronauts in spacesuits, and 3,000-year-old carvings
in an Egyptian New Kingdom Temple that appear to
depict helicopter-like machines.
In “Chariots of the
Gods” he further suggested that the origins of many religions, including
interpretations of the Old Testament of the Bible, are reactions
to contact with an alien race such as in the Book of Ezekiel a Hebrew
prophet whom in Judaism and Christianity, who lived in the 6th-century BCE,
Daniken spoke of a space vehicle that could move forward, backwards, sideways
all at the same time. According to him, humans at that time
considered the technology of the aliens to be supernatural and the
aliens themselves to be gods.
Von Daniken asks if
the oral and literal traditions of most religions contain references to
visitors from stars and vehicles traveling through air and space. These, he
says, should be interpreted as literal descriptions which have changed during
the passage of time and become more obscure.
Another problem is,
if they were similar beings like us, wouldn't they age and die on the way here?
Of course, we may
argue if they could travel near the speed of light their clock will slow down
and they may remain young to withstand the journey. This is called “time
dilation” given by Lorentz formula as, γ = √ (1 - v²/c²)
determine by the time interval measured by the stationary observer, where v is
the speed of the travelling viewer’s velocity, and c is the speed of light.
Substituting the value of v into the equation √ (1 - 36 000 000 / 8.988 x 10^10)
gives us the result that is still only 0.999 of real time measured by the
traveller.
In other words, even
if the extra-terrestrial beings travelled at 2 % the speed of light, this does
not slow down their age significantly, or make them younger to ensure they do
not age and die somewhere along the way during those appalling lengthy
interstellar journey, if I have interpreted this Lorentz or Einstein theory
correctly?
Another problem
these ancient visitors would encounter is, where are they going to get the
energy from to power their spaceship or spacecraft?
Accelerating just
one ton of their spaceship to one-tenth of the speed of light would
require at least 450 P Joules or 4.5 ×10^17 Joules, or 125 billion
kWh, not accounting for losses. The source of energy must be carried since
solar panels do not work far from the Sun and other stars. The magnitude of
this energy simply makes interstellar travel impossible.
Another problem we
are confronted here is, were those ancient extra-terrestrial visitors
human-like with DNA and genetic materials in their bodies similar to ours or
with female humans during Noah's time around 967 BC or 2,948 years ago? If
not, they would not be able to mate with human females due to mismatch in the
number of chromosomes
In Genesis 6:4 it
says:
"There were
Nephilim on earth in those days, and after that, when the sons of God came in
unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; the same were the
mighty men that were of old, the men of renown"
So, who were
the Nephilim then? Were they “sons of God" or were the offspring
who were the "mighty men of old, men of renown" or were they those
unknown ancient extra-terrestrial visitors Erich von Daniken described?
See this question further
here:
https://scientificlogic.blogspot.com/search?q=nephilim
If they were humans
like us, I really do not think they would have been able to make all those
staggeringly lengthy journeys from another world light years away.
As I said earlier,
where would they get the oxygen to breathe, water to drink, and food to eat
between their interstellar journeys, unless they were spiritual beings like
angels that Erich von Daniken would not believe or agree with me? If they are
angels or some spiritual beings from another world that did not require air or
oxygen, water food or any propulsion fuels, then there was a possibility. But
then again, how could the sons of God mate with humans?
My answer to these,
and also to your interesting question is, I really do not know. Almost
all those marvels of ancient mysteries are hidden from us unless someone else
can illuminate better.
I hope I have
explained, and thank you once again for your question
Lim ju
boo
(Erich von Daiken is
a German-Swiss author of several books which make
claims about extra-terrestrial influences on early human
culture, including the best-selling Chariots of the Gods? published
in 1968. He is main person responsible for popularizing the "paleo-contact"
and ancient astronauts’ hypotheses
Erich von Daiken is
a German-Swiss author of several books which make claims about extra-terrestrial influences
on early human culture, including the best-selling Chariots of the
Gods? published in 1968. He is main person responsible for popularizing the
"paleo-contact" and ancient astronauts’ hypotheses
Here is the
video-lecture by Erich von Daiken my brother-in-law sent to us in our WhatsApp
group:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnFRp4Hyz0c&authuser=0
6 comments:
Simply a fantastic, highly well-versed and logical explanation. You should write best selling books on all kinds of light medical and scientific subjects instead of conducting medical research
What a splendid reply so clearly explained. So nice to read all your articles
I have not read Erich von Daniken Chariots of the Gods yet though I have a copy my brother bought years ago. Your answer to a doctor's question excites me to read his book to learn more about aliens from other worlds Thank you so much. Very good explanation
Yes, I think you are right. There are many things we do not know in other worlds
Some years ago a group of friends of ours saw UFOs in northern China. I think there must be other life too from other parts of our Milky Way
Highly interesting explanation. We have to rethink we are not alone Thank you
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