Sunday, September 26, 2021

On The Existence of Angels, Sons of God, Aliens, Spiritual and Material Beings in Heavens (Universe)

I sent out a video into a WhatsApp chat group a few days ago here:

 

Elongated Head DNA Discovery… Interplanetary Beings or Another Species of Humans?"


https://youtu.be/jXLaDx0cyK4


 I then commented:

 I am now wondering if it was true that these elongated skulls found on Earth were actually those of aliens from another world or worlds?

If so, this means even aliens from  another world(s) do die like us and like all life on Earth leaving behind their skulls and skeletons as evidences of death

In other words they too are not (spiritual) immortals we tend to believe

In Genesis 6:4 in the Bible it did tell us about the presence of giants and Nephilim living on  earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown

This means to me they were the genetic hybrids of humans who were more superior genetically, and technologically and they  perhaps were the non-human beings who built those mysterious giant pyramids in ancient Egypt or those prehistoric Stonehenge  on the  Salisbury Plain in England, or those Mo'ia statues in Easter Island, among dozens of ancient mysteries and structures that can only be seen from the air - those tell-tale evidences of ancient wonders that our modern engineering cannot explain

We really do not know how we came into this world in the first place?

I am wondering if Adam and Eve were actually the first humans created, or were there actually many other kinds of prehistoric hominids or family of hominidae already in existence with very clear and undeniable fossil evidences whose existence were already in place several hundred million years earlier roaming this Earth before Adam and Eve came into existence?

I then requested chat group members for their  ideas whether these discoveries are factual or mistaken.

 This short message I sent through WhatsApp chat group prompted a friend to reply to me with this message here:

 

Dear Dr JB Lim,

 

The sons of God in Gen 6:2 & 4 are angels who rebelliously left heaven to take women as their wives. It also serves to reinforce the pre-Flood evil in the world, for God abhors interbreeding of unlike species. The sons of God and their wives produced children who were giants; the mighty men who were of old were later wiped out in the flood.

 There is without a shadow of doubt that Adam was the first man that God created.

I then replied to him here which I thought may be worthwhile sharing in my blog:

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Thank you Mr. Edwin Tan for your views.


I am not too sure if the “sons of god” as given in Genesis 6:1–4 were “fallen angels” as you describe them?, or were they actually other alien beings who descended on this planet in the earlier history of Earth’s creation?

I do not think the “sons of god” of god were fallen angels as you believe, nor are they other angels or heavenly beings described as in the Bible as “hosts of heavens”

If angels were spiritual or supernatural beings, and not material beings, they would not have any material or physical components such as DNA in their bodies.

But in Genesis verses 6:4 it clearly stated that there were  giants and Nephilim living on earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of god came in unto the daughters of men (meaning: material or physical human beings with DNA in their bodies), and they bore children to them; the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown

In other words, there is no possibility of any spiritual being that was non-material without any DNA to transfer their genetic materials into daughters of men to produce human hybrids who are “mighty men” 

This is only possible if these “sons of gods” were actually human-like physical beings with DNA and genetic materials in their bodies like us, but genetically far more complex to be able to transfer their DNA into those ancient human females to make their off-springs as mighty men, perhaps giants as well?

Whether or not they were angels who joined God in heaven, or as fallen angels who joined Lucifer and were cast down to Earth as you also  mentioned to me later, they were  all the same as spiritual beings, and not physical. 


No spiritual beings whether fallen or otherwise would  have, or need DNA like us. Only entities that are material require  a chemical composition  like DNA or other chemical elements such as hydrogen, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus, etc. for their structural make-up.  

Hence those 'fallen angels' or rather sons of gods (not God) were definitely to me,  human-like beings from another planet that landed up on ancient  Earth before the Great Flood of Noah, and hence were subsequently destroyed  by God in the Flood, probably to prevent interbreeding to become a race more 'superior' than God Himself?  

Furthermore, spiritual beings being non-material cannot be destroyed by any flood or fire

Allow me to give my counter view on this issue further.

 

In all religion aangel is a supernatural being as they described. But what or who are they? Are they immortal spiritual beings, aliens from another world - bearing in mind there may be as much as 1 followed by 24 to 26 zeros other earth-like worlds spanning across 93 billion light-years across the Universe with untold numbers of other living civilizations residing there.


Numerous estimates have been forwarded on the exact numbers of Earth-like worlds in the Universe, many with intelligent civilizations on them as given in Frank Drake equation. We will not go into the details as they can be quite technical and lengthy.

 

But we shall quote just one source as an example postulated by Robert Frost who is the Instructor and Flight Controller at NASA who replied a question asked on Quora if this estimate is reliable   

According to him (quote):


What they do know is that based on measurements of portions of the sky and extrapolation, that there are about 100 billion stars in our galaxy and up to 10 trillion galaxies in the universe. That means up to 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars. About 7.6% percent of those stars are class G stars (like our Sun).


We haven’t been to any of those stars to see if they have solar systems like ours. But we have been studying a very small portion of the sky in the constellation Cygnus, using the Kepler telescope. Kepler doesn’t allow us to visually see planets around far away stars, but it allows us to detect changes in the light coming from those stars caused by planets passing in front of the star. From this analysis, the estimates are now that almost all class G stars have at least one planet.


That means there are up to 76,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars similar to ours and almost all of them have some form of planets. Based on the Kepler observations, it is now estimated that a quarter of those stars have at least one rocky planet similar in size to the Earth and in the habitable zone” (unquote).


This zone is often called  the Goldilocks Zone where conditions are just right for the existence of life, neither too hot or too cold, and have water on them.


But as far as I am concern, there may be countless other worlds with highly advanced technological civilizations residing on them who may be just physical beings like us whom the ancient text in the Old Testament or other religious writings described them as “sons of gods” or even “angels” if they are spiritual beings?

 

Christian religion often depict angels as benevolent celestial intermediaries between God (or Heaven) and humanity. Other roles include protectors and guides for humans, and servants of God

 

Hence the word heaven or the heavens, and angels is a common term used in all religious, and they gave angels different names according to their ranks. For instance in the Bible Chayot Ha Kodesh and Ophanim is described in Ezekiel 1,10, Erelim in Isaiah 33:7, Hashmallim (Ezekiel 1:4), Seraphim (Isaiah 6).

 

Other religious text describe angels as Malakim (messenger), Elohim as Godly beings, Cherubim (Hagigah 13 b), Ishim (“manlike beings as in Genesis 1.8:2, Daniel 10:5…etc., etc.  

 

In Ephesian 6:12 these beings with their powers to control us are called “principalities” as given in this verse:

 

For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places

 

In astronomy or even in cosmology where I am a bit more familiar there may be far, far more life and living creatures elsewhere across such a horrendously vast chasms of this Universe where  transcendent supernatural beings such

as godsangelssoulssaints or venerated ancestors are said to originate, be enthroned, or reside.

 

According to the beliefs of some religions, heavenly beings can descend to Earth or incarnate and earthly beings can ascend to Heaven in the afterlife or, in exceptional cases, enter Heaven alive.

 In ancient periods there were so many accounts of alien visitors to this world which ancients writers of the Bible and other religious scriptures in their text described alien beings from another world as “angels” because they simply do not know who they were, nor were they aware of other worlds in the Universe as the knowledge of astronomy was so primitive to them then.

For instance in Genesis 18:1-2 (just an example) it says Abraham saw 3 strangers who  appeared before him in the plain of Mamre, as he sat in his tent door about the heat of the day.

And he lifted up his eyes, and looked: and lo, three men stood by him, and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself to the ground


But who were these 3 men who were there? Were they angels, alien beings, cherubim, or man-like beings in disguise as human form or what?


Then in the Book of Ezekiel there are lots of references, such as in the first chapter, all the way down, Ezekiel witnessed aliens coming down in a whirlwind in a space-craft with wheels and eyes all round the rim of the wheels. I am more than sure what Ezekiel saw was not angels, whether fallen angels or heavenly hosts?


To me, it was clearly an alien visitor who landed on this world

Here’s what is described there:

 Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, on the fifth day of the month, as I was among the captives by the River Chebar, that the heavens were opened and I saw visions of God. 2 On the fifth day of the month, which was in the fifth year of King Jehoiachin’s captivity, 3 the word of the Lord came expressly to Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the Chaldeans by the River Chebar; and the hand of the Lord was upon him there.

4 Then I looked, and behold, a whirlwind was coming out of the north, a great cloud with raging fire engulfing itself; and brightness was all around it and radiating out of its midst like the color of amber, out of the midst of the fire. 5 Also from within it came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance: they had the likeness of a man. 6 Each one had four faces, and each one had four wings. 7 Their legs were straight, and the soles of their feet were like the soles of calves’ feet. They sparkled like the color of burnished bronze. 8 The hands of a man were under their wings on their four sides; and each of the four had faces and wings. Their wings touched one another. The creatures did not turn when they went, but each one went straight forward.

10 As for the likeness of their faces, each had the face of a man; each of the four had the face of a lion on the right side, each of the four had the face of an ox on the left side, and each of the four had the face of an eagle. 11 Thus were their faces. Their wings stretched upward; two wings of each one touched one another, and two covered their bodies. 12 And each one went straight forward; they went wherever the spirit wanted to go, and they did not turn when they went.

13 As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, like the appearance of torches going back and forth among the living creatures. The fire was bright, and out of the fire went lightning. 14 And the living creatures ran back and forth, in appearance like a flash of lightning.

15 Now as I looked at the living creatures, behold, a wheel was on the earth beside each living creature with its four faces. 16 The appearance of the wheels and their workings was like the color of beryl, and all four had the same likeness. The appearance of their workings was, as it were, a wheel in the middle of a wheel. 17 When they moved, they went toward any one of four directions; they did not turn aside when they went. 18 As for their rims, they were so high they were awesome; and their rims were full of eyes, all around the four of them. 19 When the living creatures went, the wheels went beside them; and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up. 20 Wherever the spirit wanted to go, they went, because there the spirit went; and the wheels were lifted together with them, for the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. 

21 When those went, these went; when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up together with them, for the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.

22  The likeness of the firmament above the heads of the living creatures was like the color of an awesome crystal, stretched out over their heads. 23 And under the firmament their wings spread out straight, one toward another. Each one had two which covered one side, and each one had two which covered the other side of the body. 24 When they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of many waters, like the voice of the Almighty, a tumult like the noise of an army; and when they stood still, they let down their wings. 25 A voice came from above the firmament that was over their heads; whenever they stood, they let down their wings.

26 And above the firmament over their heads was the likeness of a throne, in appearance like a sapphire stone; on the likeness of the throne was a likeness with the appearance of a man high above it. 27 Also from the appearance of His waist and upward I saw, as it were, the color of amber with the appearance of fire all around within it; and from the appearance of His waist and downward I saw, as it were, the appearance of fire with brightness all around. 28 Like the appearance of a rainbow in a cloud on a rainy day, so was the appearance of the brightness all around it. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the Lord.

 

Elsewhere in the book of  Ezekiel such as in chapters 1:24, 40:3, 43:2 Ezekiel also encountered alien beings.


Even in Daniel 10:6, or even in Revelation 1:15, 2:18 strange creatures were being described  

In  Chariots of the Gods” there were many unsolved mysteries of the past a book written in 1968 by Erich von Däniken and translated from the original German by Michael Heron …


There are far too many mysteries left on Earth in prehistory era, such as who built the Great Pyramid in Giza.


It was not possible for ancient human civilizations with their primitive technology capable of building these stupendous engineering structures.


As I mentioned earlier a lot fossil evidences such as elongated skulls left behind by unknown “hominids” who may be far more advanced than us.


There are actually many other ancient mysteries left behind on Earth probable by aliens or ancient gods.

 

 You can search numerous of these videos in Google as this one about the Great Pyramid in present day Giza not far from Cairo in Egypt  

 

Ancient Aliens: Great Pyramid's Shocking Precision (Season 12) | History


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Here's a comment received from Mr Edwin Tan which could not get through in the comment section for some reason i cannot understand. His comment did not even appear in my email address for consent for publication 

There were probably also many other comments by  other readers posted on various articles in this blog that may have also failed to appear probably for technical reasons i cannot understand as i am unsure how the blog server works 

So i publish his  views directly unedited below this dotted line

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Dear Dr JB Lim, 

It's fine with me even though you didn't quite agree with my view.

My view is based on what is written in the Bible. The phrase 'sons of God' has been used in the Old Testament four times. (Gen. 6:2, Job 1:6,2:1 & 38:7). This phrase has been used three times in the book of Job to refer to the angels. From evidences in other Scriptures, this phrase in Genesis also refers to the angels.

Peter, in his epistle, speaks of angels who have sinned and are now in chains of darkness (2  Pet. 2:4,5). Jude speaks of angels who have not kept their domain but left their own habitation and are now in chains of darkness (Jude 6). He speaks of how they have committed sin in a similar manner at Sodom & Gomorrah (Jude 7)

Apparently, some of these fallen angels had the ability to cohabit with woman to produce offspring. These isolated groups were chained even before the judgement day. The offspring of this adulterous relationship were giants who were neither human nor angels. It is because of this major event that God passed judgement on the earth to destroy all the earth and leaving only Noah and his family who were of the pure Adamic stock.

 

3 comments:

Edwin Tan said...

Dear Dr JB Lim,it is all right if you do not agree with my view. My view is based on what is written in the bible.

The phrase 'sons of God' has been used in the Old Testament four times. (Gen. 6:2, Job 1:6,2:1 & 38:7). This phrase has been used three times in the book of Job to refer to the angels. From evidences in other Scriptures, this phrase in Genesis also refers to the angels.

Peter, in his epistle, speaks of angels who have sinned and are now in chains of darkness (2 Pet. 2:4,5). Jude speaks of angels who have not kept their domain but left their own habitation and are now in chains of darkness (Jude 6). He speaks of how they have committed sin in a similar manner at Sodom & Gomorrah (Jude 7)

Apparently, some of these fallen angels had the ability to cohabit with woman to produce offspring. These isolated groups were chained even before the judgement day. The offspring of this adulterous relationship were giants who were neither human nor angels. It is because of this major event that God passed judgement on the earth to destroy all the earth and leaving only Noah and his family who were of the pure Adamic stock.

Edwin Tan said...

My comments in your blog:

Dear Dr JB Lim, it's fine with me even though you didn't quite agree with my view.

My view is based on what is written in the Bible. The phrase 'sons of God' has been used in the Old Testament four times. (Gen. 6:2, Job 1:6,2:1 & 38:7). This phrase has been used three times in the book of Job to refer to the angels. From evidences in other Scriptures, this phrase in Genesis also refers to the angels.

Peter, in his epistle, speaks of angels who have sinned and are now in chains of darkness (2 Pet. 2:4,5). Jude speaks of angels who have not kept their domain but left their own habitation and are now in chains of darkness (Jude 6). He speaks of how they have committed sin in a similar manner at Sodom & Gomorrah (Jude 7)

Apparently, some of these fallen angels had the ability to cohabit with woman to produce offspring. These isolated groups were chained even before the judgement day. The offspring of this adulterous relationship were giants who were neither human nor angels. It is because of this major event that God passed judgement on the earth to destroy all the earth and leaving only Noah and his family who were of the pure Adamic stock.

Edwin Tan said...

My comments in your blog:

Dear Dr JB Lim, it's fine with me even though you didn't quite agree with my view.

My view is based on what is written in the Bible. The phrase 'sons of God' has been used in the Old Testament four times. (Gen. 6:2, Job 1:6,2:1 & 38:7). This phrase has been used three times in the book of Job to refer to the angels. From evidences in other Scriptures, this phrase in Genesis also refers to the angels.

Peter, in his epistle, speaks of angels who have sinned and are now in chains of darkness (2 Pet. 2:4,5). Jude speaks of angels who have not kept their domain but left their own habitation and are now in chains of darkness (Jude 6). He speaks of how they have committed sin in a similar manner at Sodom & Gomorrah (Jude 7)

Apparently, some of these fallen angels had the ability to cohabit with woman to produce offspring. These isolated groups were chained even before the judgement day. The offspring of this adulterous relationship were giants who were neither human nor angels. It is because of this major event that God passed judgement on the earth to destroy all the earth and leaving only Noah and his family who were of the pure Adamic stock.

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