Here’s a letter below I received
from a friend Ar. C.K. Chang:
“Here is my 1 cent worth of
thought, Prof. Lim. I think you are over relying on western medical knowledge
to solve your medical problems.
May I say that during
Hippocrates' time (450BC?) there was no such thing as western medicine that is
currently being used now?
What they depend on was basically
natural stuff and healings based on a holistic nature that continued until this
guy Rockefeller came into the picture.
Being super rich from oil, he
decided to put an end to all those traditional and alternative forms of
practicing medicine and established his own western medicine, setting up
medical schools, institutions and spawning Big Pharma.
Sure, he pumped a lot of
money into R&D into the 'western medical' profession which you are part of,
but practically killed off other forms to form some sort of monopoly in the
medical world.
Instead of letting a thousand
flowers bloom, only one is blooming. How sad. So now everything is dependent on
drugs and symptomatic treatment which is repeatedly being drummed into doctors’
heads to become the norm of treatment. Luckily, TCM is still alive and
flourishing but I won't say about others that have almost stagnated.
The mind also plays a major role in
healing, and this has been totally ignored by so called western doctors. You
still have the choice”.
CK Chang
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=231599861908503
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Here’s my reply to him just
to share my thoughts:
Dear Ar. Chang, I thank you
for your comment that I depend too much on modern mainstream medicine and
modern drugs to ‘cure’ my leg problem. Unfortunately, and on the contrary
I don’t.
History of Medicine:
I am completely aware of ancient
systems of medicine that dated back even before the Greek civilization during
which their medicine was based on the theory of humours that states that good
health comes from a perfect balance of the four humours: blood, phlegm, yellow
bile, and black bile.
Consequently, poor health resulted
from improper balance of the four humours. It was only when Hippocrates around
460 – 370 BC, the Greek physician known as the "Father of Modern
Medicine", established a medical school at Cos that ancient Greek medicine
came to revolutionize the practice of medicine we know today. That was the
period of Classical Greece or the Age of Pericles
Even then, Hippocrates and
his students did not use the type of modern synthetic medicine and drugs
produced by drug companies we used today. He advocated food as medicine, rest,
sleep, exercise and natural medicine to be practiced Hippocrates and his
students documented numerous illnesses in the Hippocratic Corpus, and developed
the Hippocratic Oath for physicians, which is still in use today with some
minor modifications based on the several revisions of the Geneva
Declaration.
His students and he also
created medical terminology that is part of our vocabulary today. Medical
terminology such as acute, chronic, epidemic, exacerbation, relapse, and others
were being coined by Hippocrates.
The contributions to ancient
Greek medicine of Hippocrates, Socrates and others had a lasting influence on
Islamic medicine and medieval European medicine until the 14th century.
I am completely aware of the
history of medicine as a member in the Section on History of Medicine among
memberships in other disciplines of medicine at the Royal Society of Medicine
in London where I am a Fellow.
But even long, long before
Hippocrates, the ancient art of healing was already practiced with a very
impressive outcome using natural methods and natural medicines derived from
plants.
Even till today about 40 % of
the modern drugs used in hospitals were plant-based, except now they are
presented as synthetic and as isolates in pure form If you care to go to my
blog article here:
“Worlds and Powers Far Beyond
Ours”
https://scientificlogic.blogspot.com/search=worlds+beyond+ours.
In that article I wrote a brief
account how the art of healing was practiced after human agrarian even in the
3rd millennium BC and during the Third Dynasty of Ur (c. 2112 BC – c. 2004 BC)
during the Neo-Sumerian Empire where they already used prescription of natural
medicine extracted from botanical sources.
I also mentioned the oldest
Babylonian texts on medicine dated back to the Old Babylonian period in the
first half of the 2nd millennium BCE, namely the years between 2000 through
1001 BCE.
Traditional Chinese Medicine:
Traditional Chinese medicine
(TCM), system of medicine has a history at least 23 centuries old that actually
seek to prevent or cure disease by preserving or re-establishing a yin-yang
balance, very much the same principle of homeostasis we are familiar and accept
in modern medicine Its medical system is also one of the world’s oldest.
Together with acupuncture and Chinese herbal medicine, dated back at least 2,200 years, even though the earliest known written record of Chinese medicine is the Huangdi neijing (The Yellow Emperor’s Inner Classic) from the 3rd century BCE. That work provided the theoretical concepts for TCM that remain the basis of its practice today.
The fundamental nature of the traditional Chinese system of medicine seeks to restore a dynamic balance between two complementary forces, yin (passive) and yang (active), which permeates the human body as they do the universe as a whole.
According to this principle, a person is healthy when harmony prevails between these two forces: illness, on the other, results from a collapse in the equilibrium of yin and yang.
May I remind doctors today
that medical practice based on prescription was already there 4,000 years ago,
and that was 2,000 years even before Jesus Christ who was the greatest of all
Healers till today.
When Jesus came to this
world, He showed us He did not even use prescription medicines or drugs or use
any kind of surgery like we do today.
That essay I penned in my blog was
almost a university dissertation on medicine consisting of 6,878 words in
length.
As I am currently a Special Medical and Scientific Adviser to an international group of pharmaceutical and herbal medicine companies, I am aware of how drugs and natural medicines from plant sources work – the former based on pharmacology, the later on pharmacognosy, their chemistries and mode of action.
Joint WHO-Ministry of Health-Institute for Medical Research Expert Technical Committee:
In fact, when I was working
at the Institute for Medical Research (IMR) I was one of the members of the
Joint WHO-MOH-IMR Technical Expert Committee on Alternative and Complementary
Medicines.
In those countless meetings and
meetings, after meetings where I sat as an expert member for nearly 6 years
till I retired in 1994 we discussed various aspects and problems encountered if
we were to integrate native and complementary systems of medicine with conventional
mainstream medicine as practiced in hospitals
In those meetings we need to
look at the training aspect, length of training and qualifications of the
practitioners, their clinical and therapeutic efficacy, safety, legal,
administrative and logistic aspects and their problems, acceptability by the
public, among many other issues, and how best to integrate them into the
mainstream health system.
Those meetings and discussions took
us many years to decide, and they went on well after my retirement and other
new committees took over.
Thankfully, Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM), together with one or two other systems of traditional Indian systems of medicines along with most western alternative and complementary medicines such as naturopathic and homeopathic medicine are now officially recognized for practice by an Act of Parliament.
However, all practitioners must be
registered by their own governing bodies under the Ministry of Health, similar
to conventional medicine controlled by the Malaysian Medical Council During
those years of discussions I was asked to look at the practice of TCM, being a
Chinese member in that Technical Committee.
Clinical Observation and Training:
Not being familiar with TCM,
I then went to the main college and clinic where TCM is practiced every night
from 8 – 11 pm for 6 months and learned how they treat and the procedures they
used.
The college and clinic there was quite large and surprisingly extremely crowded by patients from all races, mainly Chinese, followed by Malays and Indians. The treatment was all free, and the entire clinic was filled with a pleasant aroma of Chinese medicinal herbs with their own Chinese pharmacists dispensing out the prescriptions written out by the Chinese physicians.
I also saw how they performed
acupuncture. It was quite impressive. The acupuncturists execute the procedure
in a very aseptic way, wearing face masks, and gloves, and using only
disposable needles, or needles passed through a spirit flame to sterilize them.
They were truly well-trained
and qualified. It was a painless procedure. I also spoke to the patients, and
they all felt very comfortable, happy and were relieved of their chronic pains
plaguing them for years under conventional hospital treatment.
I spent months observing and talking with the TCM doctors and learnt from them. Additionally, I learned the theory of TCM on my own which was initially quite “alien” to me as it was against my western medical-scientific thinking as a medical researcher.
National Conference on Traditional Medicines:
Finally, after many years, a national conference on traditional medicines was organized and held by the Institute for Medical Research attended by practitioners and paper presenters from associations of various systems of medicine including doctors from the Malaysian Medical Association and professors and specialists from teaching hospitals.
A Paper Presentation on TCM:
I then presented a paper on
TCM as best as I could in English on behalf of the Association of Chinese
Physicians of Malaysia. But I am unsure if I did justice to them as I am not
formally trained or qualified in TCM, except those few 6 months of TCM clinic
sessions I attended, and learn more on my own.
Additional Training in Other
Medical Systems in Good Use During a Health Survey:
But I do have some formal
training in London, Sydney and Melbourne and in India on naturopathic and
natural medicine which was put into good use in a few emergency medical
situations when I was conducting regular health surveys with our medical and
health team consisting of epidemiologist, medical doctors, nutritionists,
dentists, an anthropologist and sociologist, a statistician, supported by a
team of nurses and medical technologists from the Institute for Medical
Research
A Personal Experience:
In order to cut a story very
short, in one of our health surveys, I went to a village house at the fridge of
a jungle where the only access is through a jungle path on foot where no
bicycle, motorbike, let alone cars or an ambulance could reach.
I went to a village hut to
look for a man who was statically selected who was supposed to go to the
community hall over 1 km away where our medical team with their medical and
portable lab equipment were placed and waiting.
He was unable to come to the
village community hall because he was very ill. I saw him lying there unable to
move. I examined him. He was jaundiced all over his body and eyes. His abdomen
was bloated with ascites (water retention).
He was very ill, with nausea and
vomiting and drowsiness. It was a clear case to me of a liver disorder that
needed further investigations in a large and good hospital. Such a case needed
to be transported by ambulance straight to hospital.
There was no way of calling an
ambulance into the jungle, But I was there together with a nurse and two
medical technologists looking for him to come to the village community
hall.
We went there without anything. But
this man was very ill lying there with just a few of his children and his wife
looking after him. In such a scenario what shall we do?
It was then I made use of my training and knowledge in natural medicine that was found aplenty in the jungle.
An Unwanted Weed Turned A Life-saving Medicine:
I did not go far, just to the front
of his house to look for an unwanted weed for most people. I found it not far
from his village compound.
It was a weed no one wanted called
“dukun anak” in Malay, scientifically called “Phyllantus amarus” which has been
traditionally used for over 200 hundred years in SE Asia for the management of
a wide range of diseases from kidney disorders, jaundice traditionally
described as “yellow fever” and liver disorders, diarrhoea and dysentery to
urogenital diseases…etc.
I told one of his daughters
about 50 of these small leaves, pound them and make an infusion out of it, and
drink it three times a day.
I also advised him to avoid fatty
foods, alcohol, and a diet high in starch and carbohydrates. I also asked her
to follow me to the community centre so that I could give her vitamin B complex
and vitamin C. She did. I gave her my office phone number in Kuala Lumpur where
she may contact me if necessary.
I then forgot the whole event
and went to conduct studies on other houses which were our main objective. We
were not there to treat anybody.
A Surprised Wake-up Phone
Call:
After about 10 days in the
villages, we went back to Kuala Lumpur. I thought about him anymore as we were
busying analysing our blood and urine samples, and anthropometric, clinical,
food intake and nutrition, socio-demographic data among thousands of other
data
One morning, about a month
later I received a call from this man’s son who was working in Petronas in
Kuala Lumpur thanking me profusely telling me his father had fully recovered
under my instructions.
I was quite stunned,
surprised, held on the phone for several minutes, yet so happy having done my
best for his father in a primitive rural setting where nothing was available to
me except natural medicines from a tropical jungle.
Lessons on Jungle Medicines
from Native People:
We also came to learn that a lot of
the Orang Asli (native people of Malaysia) who live in the jungles or at the
fringes of thick jungles and rainforests have deep knowledge of medicinal
plants in the jungles.
They treat themselves,
including snake bites using these plants. The jungles contain tens of hundreds
of thousands of natural medicines available to them, and they have very deep
knowledge about them, and also how and when to use them or mixtures of
them.
We pay tribute to them as we,
my former doctor colleagues and I used to learn from them. The jungle is their
entire huge natural pharmacy and ‘hospital’.
Some international drug
companies are always in these jungles collecting hundreds of thousands of
different plants for analysis for medical values where they can isolate,
synthesize and patent and sell them to the medical profession at exorbitant
prices.
After receiving the phone
call of gratitude from his son, I sat thinking about this patient the entire
morning and how my training at the University of London came as a blessing for
this gentleman and later for others too. It was a blessing for me too to be
able to help.
Another Medical Emergency:
There was also another
medical emergency where in another place a year or two later in Kedah in a rice
field I managed to save a young Malay girl about 20 + years. As usual I was
accompanied by two nurses and two medical lab boys to help me.
I divided two of them to be with
me, the other two to another village house some half a kilometres away as all
the houses in isolated villages are all scattered far apart from each other No
sooner had my nurse with me recorded down the answers from a questionnaire on
demography; the other medical technologist and nurse from the other house came
running to me telling me a girl was unable to breathe.
I followed them running as
fast as we could to find this young female student studying in Kuala Lumpur but
returning to her village during holidays at the height of a rice harvest. She
was cyanosed (blue on her face and lips) gasping for air.
I immediately diagnosed her with an
acute asthmatic attack.
As usual, such an event
needed to be immediately treated in a hospital where there are Ipratropium
(Atrovent), albuterol and fast acting bronchodilators, and inhaled
corticosteroids. nebulizers, supplemental oxygen, if not intubation…etc.
We were not prepared for such an
emergency happening in an isolated house in a vast rice field. What do you want
us to do in such an event? I have to think quickly about applying first-aid
measures.
But what can be done except sitting
her upright, clamming her, and loosening anything tight clothing if she has no
asthmatic inhaler of her own. I have to think quickly. I remember foot
reflexology. I remember corticosteroids.
I remember adrenaline acting directly on the beta-adrenoceptor for bronchodilation, and its inhibition of bronchoconstrictor neural pathways, besides inhaled corticosteroids, short and long -acting beta-adrenergic blocking agents.
I remember black coffee contains theophylline. as a bronchodilator That was all those knowledge I could remember and have in such a panic situation I knew at that time the adrenal gland or suprarenal glands above the kidneys produce the corticosteroid hormones such as aldosterone, cortisol, glucocorticoids, mineralocorticoids on the outer cortex layer, and the inner medulla layer produces adrenaline and noradrenaline.
I knew that these hormones are used
as drugs for the management of asthmatic attacks. I also knew that stimulating
certain zones on the sole of the feet can release these very valuable hormones
in an emergency.
Prior to that, I attended some
courses in foot reflexology informally on my own as I always do to increase my
knowledge just for anything.
I also knew there were other areas
such as the back of the neck, between the thumbs and the index fingers where we
could massage to stimulate the suprarenal glands to release these hormones
There are certain specific zones or spots on the sole of the feet that
stimulate various organs such as the heart, lungs, liver, stomach…etc. There is
a chart showing these zones.
But what I had forgotten then
was which area on the feet I needed to massage as I hardly practice foot
reflexology or massage except to learn them out of academic interest.
But then I faced an emergency
situation where I needed to know but had forgotten in that life and death
predicament.
I needed to think quickly. So I
told one of the nurses to carry the young Malay girl just outside her village
Malay wooden house that was built standing on wooden stilts with a short ladder
to the floor.
I told the other medical assistant
to place her sitting upright, her legs dangling on the steps of the house
ladder. I then instructed the nurse to massage the entire sole of her one of
her feet, while I managed the other since I forget the specific zone to the
kidneys and the adrenal glands.
We both desperately massaged
her feet hard, while the other helper tried to keep her sitting upright and
comfort her.
A Miracle Appeared:
I was quite desperate, but
that was the best I could offer and manage. Both my nurse and I did that for
less than 10 minutes, and gradually a miracle appeared before our eyes. Her
cyanotic face changed colour from blue purple to light brown, then into
pink.
I could have cried aloud and
embraced her and my nurse from such a frightening experience for us all. She
took deep breaths of air after the event.
We stayed with her for about half
an hour just in case of another episode. I then advised her to carry with her
an asthmatic inhaler all the time to inhale puffs of the medication.
Black Coffee:
Since she did not have one,
before we leave, I told her to take two cups of strong black coffee without
sugar or milk because I knew that coffee contains theophylline and caffeine in
coffee when metabolized produces the bronchodilator theophylline, the very same
drug also used in medicine for treatment of asthma
I also advised her not to
come back to her village during padi harvesting time due to pollen that might
have triggered her asthmaticus and exacerbation into a medical emergency.
There were a few other
medical emergency situations I faced unexpectedly, especially after I joined
St. John Ambulance Malaysia as their Regional Staff Officer for Training after
my retirement from medical research.
Advanced Course in Medical
Emergency:
I then went to do advanced
courses in emergency medicine at Kuala Lumpur Hospital, at the Emergency Dept
of HUKM (National University Teaching Hospital Malaysia) and at Selayang
Hospital.
Thereafter I was admitted
into membership in the Section of Emergency Medicine of the Royal Society of
Medicine in London as part of my Fellowship.
Interference with Nature:
Often, we interfere with Nature using our drugs that in the long-term cause more problems instead of leaving this to Nature.
For instance, we experienced, as
well as malariologists from the Malaria Division at the IMR who told me of our
experience working in the jungles where native were found to harbour various
species of Plasmodium (malarial parasites) their bodies throughout their lives
without coming down with malaria.
Then we started to put them
on antimalarial drugs such as chloroquine and followed them up 3 months later.
When we went back for follow-up the same population whom we gave anti-malarial
drugs to most of them who came down with frank malaria, presenting all the
typical clinical features of malaria which they never had before we went.
They have lived all their
lives with malarial parasites in their blood without symptoms or signs of
malaria until we tried to interfere by treating them.
As to why they do not get
clinical manifestations of malaria, or how the malarial parasites in their
blood managed to undergo their life cycle by multiplying first in the
liver cells and then into the red blood cells, destroying them, releasing
daughter parasites called merozoites to continue the cycle by invading other
red cells without affecting them is not clear to us. It looks like a miracle in
symbiosis and their mutual harm.
Symbiosis with Nature:
The native folks who live with
Nature in the tropical jungles have been living in symbiosis all their lives
with pathogens, parasites and disease being affected till we interfere with our
modern drugs.
The same story was also told to me
by a WHO Consultant Malariologist who was attached to the IMR. One morning we
were having an informal chit-chat about malaria. He told me he was in Assam
before he came to Malaysia.
He told me malaria was not that
serious in Assam till WHO interfered with antimalarial drugs. He told me how
the people there, when faced with malaria, took their native medicine from some
trees, and it was gone. But when WHO came to interfere with their
recommendations using synthetic drugs, malaria flared up.
He then told me that's why he came
to Malaysia, much to our laughter.
In a few health surveys conducted
by research teams from the Institute for Medical Research in the 1980’s and
1990’s it was found that the natives Orang Asli who lived in the jungles or at
the fringes of thick tropic rain forests of Malaysia, hardly acquire any of the
modern lifestyle, chronic and modern diseases like diabetes, heart and vascular
diseases like hypertension unlike found among city dwellers
However it was found that when they
were resettled into the urban areas, they soon acquired these scourged
disorders of urban settlers, and a hospital needed to be established for them
when the jungle was their entire pharmacy where they have intimate knowledge of
medicinal plants and where they treated themselves successfully anything from
snake bites to tumours
Conventional Allopathic vs
Alternative Systems of Medicine:
It is not true that conventional
medicine is better than alternative medicine. Both systems are useful depending
on the nature of the disease or nature of the problem.
For one, conventional medicine is
excellent in the case of a medical emergency or in an acute crisis where there
is a need to act very fast. For instance if there is a serious trauma,
say in an accident where the casualty needs to be stabilized as fast as
possible, such as a serious loss of blood, in shock, or in a cardiac arrest.
His vital functions such as
airways, breathing, circulation and haemodynamic need to be stabilized.
Sometimes supplemental oxygen or even endotracheal intubation need to
be established.
In conventional medicine, they have
powerful and fast acting drugs such as adrenalin, amiodarone, lidocaine to
be given by bolus intravenous infusions, or in acute infection such
as endocarditis or osteomyelitis, that may need prompt and prolonged
parenteral antibiotic administration.
Sometimes surgical intervention
such as removal of a tumour, an appendectomy as an emergency
surgery, an obstruction somewhere in a system, or a surgical repair to an
incompetent cardiac valve would be the only way. No other medical system can be
better than surgery to replace a surgical procedure.
These are just a few examples where
conventional medicine shows its best that no other alternative approaches can
replace.
Unfortunately, the drug approach in
conventional treatment does extremely badly in managing chronic diseases like
diabetes, hypertension, arthritis, asthma, cancer,
chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), cystic fibrosis,
the management of chronic pains and in most lifestyle diseases…among many
others.
These are areas where traditional
and other alternative therapeutic systems come in better as they address the
root causes of the disease through lifestyle modifications, acupuncture,
physiotherapies, and dietary changes, physical, psychological and even
spiritual approaches. They would be the best form of therapies.
One Of the best and the most
ancient systems is herbal medicines especially in Traditional Chinese Medicine
where they use a mixtures of herbs, flowers, leaves, roots from medicinal
plants including adaptogens from botanical sources to assist
the body to adapt to various biological, chemical and physical stressors and
challenges These herbs, roots, and parts of plants have been used for
centuries in Chinese and Ayurvedic curative traditions, and they are still very
popular and well-accepted till today.
Unlike synthetic drugs that
consist of a single active compound acting pharmacologically in isolation,
medical plants contain a spectrum of biologically active compounds acting
synergistically in low non-toxic doses as a family supporting each other’s
action as prescribed in nature.
These collective modes of actions
of mixtures of botanical medicines given at low non-toxic doses are far better
and safer for long-term therapy for chronic conditions than single synthetic
drugs given at higher dose without adjunct therapeutic support.
Integrative Medicine:
Each medical system has its uses,
and I think it is best to adopt an integrative approach rather than a
stand-alone therapy. If a single approach of any alternative medicine is used,
this would land up no better than conventional drug therapy.
It would be unsurpassed if the best
therapeutic approaches from each system of medicine is taken and integrate them
as one and call it integrative medicine rather than alternative medicine.
In such an integrated
approach each therapy would complement and harmonize the deficiencies of any
single system. Hence the term alternative medicine should be replaced by
complementary medicine.
There is a book I bought not long
ago called “Integrative Medicine complied by David Rakel MD, Professor and
Chair of the Department of Family and Community Medicine, University of New
Mexico School of Medicine, Albuquerque, New Mexico with a forward by Andrew
Weil, MD, Director, Arizona Centre for Integrative Medicine, a Clinical
Professor of Medicine and a Professor of Public Health, University of Arizona.
In the 4th Edition
of this book there were 148 highly qualified medical specialists along with
equally highly qualified physicians, doctors in other systems of medicine, many
of the authors armed with a PhD, ND, MSc alongside with their MDs.
They collectively contributed their
expertise in writing that book par excellence contained in an impressive 118
chapters in 1,123 pages. It is quite an expensive book, but worth every cent of
it for every clinician of modern conventional medicine to open their eyes and
mind.
Let me now take this opportunity
since you asked and advised me on how our disobedience to God had created this
division in medicine.
Let’s have a look.
The Garden of Eden:
When Adam and Eve were created, God put them into the Garden of Eden where He told Adam he was free to eat any the fruits (as foods and medicine) in the Garden except from the tree of knowledge of good and evil (the knowledge of medicine), for when you eat from it you will certainly die (Genesis 2:15-17).
We can also visualize in
these 2 verses those trees Adam was free to eat provided him with not just
food, but natural medicine as well for his eternal health. But Eve came along,
deceived by Satan who came in disguised as a serpent and used Eve to eat the
fruit of (medical) knowledge (on unnatural synthetic medicine like
today).
All the trees in the Garden of Eden were natural food and natural medicines such as medical herbs and medicinal plants.
Our Tree of Knowledge vs. His Wisdom:
The Tree of Knowledge is our
present-day synthetic drugs and medicine because we scientists are too
"knowledgeable" to rely on our own strength instead of seeking His
Wisdom.
Had both of them just listened and obeyed God, they and all of us today would have enjoyed eternal health and eternal life eating only natural food for nutrition and natural medicine for managing diseases that have never been shown to have any side-effects or resistance to disease.
This is so unlike synthetic antibiotics to most bacterial infections today, for example isoniazid and rifampin, two most powerful drugs against tuberculosis that both have now become multidrug-resistant.
Another example is the use of chloroquine against Plasmodium (malarial parasites), and more recently the same chloroquine as well as remdesivir for SARS-Covid-2 virus. Both chloroquine and remdesivir are now useless for the current Covid pandemic.
God is never wrong if Adam and Eve and we have listened and have obeyed under His guidance.
Unfortunately, we wanted to be too
smart to have our own knowledge instead of wisdom. So we ate our own tree of
knowledge that leads us into the evil of disease and death. This is just an
example.
We can go on and on…all night long till dawn. But we need to stop here so that I can have my rest to have my late dinner, bathe and sleep.
(5,428 words)
Thank you for your thoughts
and for your advice.
3 comments:
Very interest and a very rich experience. As a doctor myself with over 35 years clinical experience I fully agree conventional drug-based medicine stand-alone approach has its limitation and draw-back. I strongly support the practice of medicine should be integrated using the best therapeutic modality from each system
Dr. HT Barrey
You have been a blessing to all whom who approached you for help
I fully agree all you have voiced
Tanny Bay
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